Tuesday, February 7, 2012

A group of top European banks is disclosing that they didn't borrow money under the European Central Bank's bank-lending program, fearful of being perceived as bailout recipients. The ECB in late December doled out a total of €489 billion ($643 billion) in three-year loans at a 1% interest rate to 523 banks. The primary goal was to avert problems at banks that faced waves of maturing debt but didn't have access to borrow money via traditional funding markets. The broad participation in the program, known as the Long-Term Refinancing Operation, fueled a sense of euphoria among many bank executives.

The ECB, Brussels and Germany are corrupt and self interested and don't give a damn about Greece or the amount of austerity they pour over Greek heads. They just want their money back - and with interest. He also points out that the banks in general are incompetent - leaving themselves open to gargantuan losses and not a sign of an insurance policy, relying on depositors' money to cover any losses. The greedy west has stuffed itself, but at least the top boys have paid themselves so much they are now independently wealthy and can just walk away and let others pick up the pieces. The ECB is relunctant to forego of profits from the Greek bonds they purchased but prefer to throw Greece into turmoil and its people into dire poverty as the economy disintegrates in a fifth year of deep recession? ....What an odd position for a Central Bank to take! Even if an involuntary restructuring is averted at this point, a messy default may still take place in Greece a year or two down the road as the debt is still not manageable. Who can guarantee that the overall economy will be strong enough to contain it then? Postponing the crisis may end up costing dearly in the long run.

A DIFFERENT NOTE : --- Romania's prime minister quit on Monday after a series of at-times violent nationwide protests against budget cuts and declining living standards, as deepening political turmoil fueled by Europe's prolonged economic crisis spreads across the Continent. Thousand of Romanians have taken to the wintry streets of Bucharest and other cities in recent weeks to vent their anger at the center-right administration of Emil Boc, who has implemented tough austerity measures in an effort to shore up state finances. "In times of crisis, the government is not in a popularity contest, but is saving the country," Mr. Boc said on Monday. But he said he and his cabinet would step down to "defuse political and social tension" and urged Parliament to quickly choose a new government. The collapse of confidence in Mr. Boc and his team reflects waning popular support for belt-tightening after years of higher taxes and reductions in public-sector salaries and pensions that have so far not been accompanied by a return to robust economic growth.

12 comments:

Anonymous said...

Just listen to the ignorant hysterical bleatings of the two wunderkinds, Frau Dumpling and Twit Sarkozy. Greece must do this and it must do that, because there is so much at stake for the entire Eurozone. Ridiculous. Greece should stick to its guns. Okay real hardship but then its own currency, some freedom and oxygen to breathe for a renewal. Meanwhile, in Spain real hardship is beginning. I can see no end to it - 5 or 10 years of hell coming? All for the Euro! Whoopee, I am sure the citizens of Greece, Spain, Portugal have much to be pleased about when they hear Merkel dictating with her economic ignorant waffle

Anonymous said...

I had a relationship break up a few years back and found that I could no longer pay my debts. It would have been either paying minimum payments for 20-30 years or to go bankrupt. I chose to go bankrupt because I decided quality of life is better than a 'Credit Rating'

Now what do I think? A credit rating is not needed to get on in life, I now have savings and not debt and I now have learnt how this ponzi thing we use called 'money' works.

So my advice to Greece is to go bankrupt, follow icelands lead and make your country strong again, stop being a debtor nation! The only people that win are the bankers....

Anonymous said...

The troika still haven`t decided what kind of badge the Greeks are to wear on their clothes when in public.
A triangle,a square,a star,and what colour are these badges to be ?

The new Athenian ghettoes boundaries have yet to be decided and the re-education centres location and motto are all open to suggestions.

Any suggestions on a postcard please to EU Reich Head Quarters in Brussels, EU Reich Kommissar Merkel or EU Vichy President Sarkozy.

Anyone whose suggestions are taken up will become Honourary Life Members of the new EU Stasi Compliance Commission and entered in a free draw for a fortnights holiday in Greece.

Anonymous said...

They have operated their financial system like a banana republic, and we are expected participate in bailing out this lunacy.
Do no politicians have to 'pay' for the damages they inflict over the years ?
'Leave office, and your sins are forgiven, it appears all over the place !
Let them go back to their drachmas and pay off their debt over 20-30 years, there are NUMEROUS multi millionaires in that place whom have been tax evading for too long

Anonymous said...

The EuroZone started their "visionary" club and there can be no "debt forgiveness" because the EZ would suffer the same ignominious fate in that case as it will when Greece defaults.

If Greece were to be "forgiven" it's debts, the markets would collapse because, how long would it e before the same forgiveness was demanded for Spain, Italy, Portugal or even Ireland?

The EZ broke it, now they can fix it or fail.

Anonymous said...

Whatever blandishments Merkle may spout, the Greek politicians will look to their own interests, ultimately,the people of Greece will decide, probably, that the single currency has proved the disaster that it was prophesied it would be by wise men.

Anonymous said...

The three main political parties in Greece's national unity government were reportedly given until 11am to respond to international demands on tougher spending cuts. But the deadline passed with no response - except for politicians claiming there was no deadline.

Sources in Athens said the talks between Greece and its creditor banks were on hold while Lucas Papademos, the Greek prime minister, vacillated between negotiations with his own politicians and the "troika" officials from the European Union (EU), the International Monetary Fund (IMF) and the European Central Bank (ECB).

In less than six weeks Greece must repay a €14.5bn (£12bn) bond. It will be unable to meet this without the release of a €130bn international bail-out programme – which will only come when austerity measures are agreed.

At a press conference with French President Nicolas Sarkozy on Monday, Ms Merkel: "There can be no new Greece programme if agreement is not reached with the troika... All those who bear responsibility in Greece must know - we will not deviate from this position."

She added: "I honestly can't understand how additional days will help. Time is of the essence. A lot is at stake for the entire eurozone."

Anonymous said...

Today's strike is expected to cause widespread disruption in Greece -- a country used to regular industrial action since the financial crisis began.

Demonstrations are also expected to take place in Athens - raising fears that the strike could turn violent. Many previous protests have begun peacefully, but descended into clashes between riot police and masked protestors.

The strike is expected to force many schools to close today, and disrupt work at local and government offices. There are also reports that hospitals will be forced to operate with limited staff.

Transport links will certainly be disrupted, with bus, rail and metro services in Athens partially suspended.

The talks was called by Greece's two main union bodies -- ADEDY, which represents workers in the public sector, and GSEE which represents private sector employees.

Anonymous said...

Is it my imagination, or do both the Greek government and Brussels want a default, but they are jockying for position over who's to blame for it?

Brussels probably has maths that says a messy default and humanitarian aid is cheaper than the bottomless Greek pit, and the resulting bond market chaos, and they think a default will put a proper fix for the Euro in arms reach.

The Greek leaders probably think it's going to be easier to play good cops, begging for aid and trying to fix the mess of a default and collapse of the economy than it is to play bad cop too the greek population, trying to implement unwanted reforms. In either case they keep their jobs, but in the latter they can more easily possition themselves as heroes to the Greek people, compared to their role as vilans, and that's probably looking quite attractive given their current stress levels.

Anonymous said...

FRANKFURT—Industrial production in Germany fell sharply in December in adjusted terms as all categories recorded a fall, data from the country's economics ministry showed Tuesday, but the ministry sees a recovery in the near term.

Industrial production in Europe's largest economy fell by 2.9% in monthly terms in December, following November's flat reading. November production was originally reported to have dropped 0.6%. Experts had forecast a 0.2% monthly gain in December.

The biggest monthly drop was construction which fell by 6.4% in December after growing by 3.3% in November. Manufacturing production fell by 2.7% in December after a 0.3% drop in November. In quarterly adjusted terms, industrial output fell by 1.9% in the fourth quarter, the ministry reported.

Even though manufacturing output fell in the fourth quarter, survey indicators point to the pace of output picking up early in 2012. The ministry wrote in a statement that the stabilization of new orders as well as brightening business climate indicators are the "first signs" of overcoming the weak phase in industrial production.

Anonymous said...

07.57 Yesterday, the IMF's chief economist Olivier Blanchard said that painful austerity measures in Greece would lead the country down an "ugly and an unpleasant path but it is at least one that can be tried."

He added:

Under a realistic scenario this is going to take a very long time and for a long time Greece will not be able to go back to markets.

07.50 James Nixon and Michala Marcussen at SocGen said:

Hopes that the bailout package could be negotiated appear to be misplaced since any relaxation in the fiscal targets facing Greece will require even greater official financing. Even now and pending the take up of PSI, Greece is reported to require €145bn to cover its financing needs over the next three years and the final figure is almost certain to be higher given our debt simulations above. We are therefore fast approaching the point where time has finally come to confront the issues Greece faces. Greece’s European partners need to decide if they are prepared to commit more resources to Greece and support it through its painful adjustment programme and in return Greece itself has to decide how committed it is to that programme.

Anonymous said...

Greek newspaper Kathimerini reports that agreement has been reached on around €2.5bn of a total of €3.3bn of spending cuts demanded by the troika. As part of this:

• €1.1bn will come from health cuts.

• Local government subsidies and defence spending will each be cut by €300m.

• Greece's minimum wage (which is paid to around 300,000 workers) will be cut by between 20 and 22pc to €750 per month. However, plans to scrap Greece's 13th and 14th "bonus" monthly salaries will be dropped.

• 15,000 jobs will be cut from the civil service by the end of the year. A total of 150,000 public sector jobs will be cut by 2015.